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		<title>Comment on St. Paul&#8217;s Occupation. by jacqueline ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacqueline ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  wish to send support to the campers, and if I had been younger or in different circumstances would have been physically with them.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Bonkers Land Tax by William Davison</title>
		<link>http://www.landandliberty.net/12/bonkers-land-tax/#comment-1203</link>
		<dc:creator>William Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re &quot;almost none of them know anything about tax, tax, economics and least of all land”  I think Kevin Cahill has had any formal training in economics and when I spoke to him did not appear have much knowledge of leading economists arguments for land Tax; he dismissed Adam Smith&#039;s support for land Tax for example.  In the 60&#039;s he was a platoon commander in Aden and NI, in 70&#039;s he did a degree in English lit and became system analyst before becoming a journalist in 1979 writing for computer mags.  His knowledge appears to come from working on the Sunday times rich list in 88  and in 2001 he wrote Who Owns the World: The Hidden Facts Behind Landownership.  Where he say the queen own 1/6th of the earth, which I believe includes Antarctica.

&quot;excludes farmers and domestic dwellers from land value tax. In so doing he excludes about 80 per cent of all land in the UK. Another 15 per cent of the remainder is road, mountain, bog and moor, so is untaxable&quot;  This is fairly typical of his arguments, he quotes area as if it was as important as value.  Farm land is about 85% of UK land, but only 2% by value.

He claims that it would be very difficult to prove who owns the land, although he seems not to of heard of geographic information systems and ignores that many countries around world have land Taxes. The UK did have a land Tax of sorts between 1692-1963 and the records of land ownership are still in the National Archives and of course there is the Doomday book. It would appear we are not capable of doing with all our computers and Satellites what William the Conqueror managed in 1086.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;almost none of them know anything about tax, tax, economics and least of all land”  I think Kevin Cahill has had any formal training in economics and when I spoke to him did not appear have much knowledge of leading economists arguments for land Tax; he dismissed Adam Smith&#8217;s support for land Tax for example.  In the 60&#8242;s he was a platoon commander in Aden and NI, in 70&#8242;s he did a degree in English lit and became system analyst before becoming a journalist in 1979 writing for computer mags.  His knowledge appears to come from working on the Sunday times rich list in 88  and in 2001 he wrote Who Owns the World: The Hidden Facts Behind Landownership.  Where he say the queen own 1/6th of the earth, which I believe includes Antarctica.</p>
<p>&#8220;excludes farmers and domestic dwellers from land value tax. In so doing he excludes about 80 per cent of all land in the UK. Another 15 per cent of the remainder is road, mountain, bog and moor, so is untaxable&#8221;  This is fairly typical of his arguments, he quotes area as if it was as important as value.  Farm land is about 85% of UK land, but only 2% by value.</p>
<p>He claims that it would be very difficult to prove who owns the land, although he seems not to of heard of geographic information systems and ignores that many countries around world have land Taxes. The UK did have a land Tax of sorts between 1692-1963 and the records of land ownership are still in the National Archives and of course there is the Doomday book. It would appear we are not capable of doing with all our computers and Satellites what William the Conqueror managed in 1086.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Land Value Taxation in the News by Tax, auction and banking: how to release the value of Britain&#8217;s land &#124; government liquidation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tax, auction and banking: how to release the value of Britain&#8217;s land &#124; government liquidation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tax bases have been eroded and land tax is one thing you can&#8217;t take off to Monaco,&#8221; he said. Cable suggested business rates could be replaced with a tax based on the value of a site, and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Solving the housing problem and decreasing the deficit at the same time by Dr. Adrian Wrigley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Adrian Wrigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I welcome this proposal as an attempt to find new &quot;low hanging fruit&quot; in the policy debate.  The proposal focuses on two problems:

1) The housing problem - shortage of affordable housing
2) The government deficit

Housing is not affordable (for purchase) because many people have little or cash saved, but bank lending criteria have tightened dramatically. Banks would lend 100% of purchase price five years ago might be comfortable lending only 70% now.  So people who needed 0% of the purchase price in savings now need 30%.

The consequence is that houses will not be &quot;affordable&quot; for large demographic groups, even if the price were to drop dramatically. If prices were to fall 50%, banks would still be demanding unaffordable deposits.

The real &quot;housing problem&quot; is always one of distribution, finance and affordability, not quantity.  Building new houses unlikely to help.

Applying Business Rates to unoccupied land will have rather significant effects. The problem is I can&#039;t be sure what.  And other people would have their own ideas
about the possible effects.  This poses an immediate political challenge, to say nothing of the opposition by vested interests.

My hunch is that it would bring the land onto the market, bringing prices down and impairing the solvency of the house builders.  Not much new building will occur at this stage.  The opposition parties will announce they would
reverse the legislation, and the government will relent under irresistible pressure. Decision making will be comatose until the political situation is unanimous.
We&#039;ve seen this with much of the previous land tax legislation in the 20th century.

I don&#039;t think the price of houses will be affected much, because the quantity will be almost unaffected, and the demand will be unaffected too. Same supply, same demand -&gt; prices unaffected. Remember, 300,000 sites represents only around 1% of the UK housing stock.

A key problem with the UK economy is excessive levels of debt (private+public). Building and selling 300,000 new houses on credit would result in *more* total debt,
even considering the lower debt from the new NNDR, Stamp Duty, Income Tax and VAT. And the government will be pushed into spending on roads, schools, community centres, exacerbating the debt problem further.

I think any effective solution must affect the main bulk of housing and associated debt, rather than just working at the economic margins.

Unfortunately, for the above reasons, I cannot recommend the proposal as financially, economically or politically sound.

I wrote a paper for Prosper Australia&#039;s Progress magazine explaining how to solve the housing and financial crisis.  An abridged version was published here. I will email anyone a copy on request - land at adrianwrigley.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I welcome this proposal as an attempt to find new &#8220;low hanging fruit&#8221; in the policy debate.  The proposal focuses on two problems:</p>
<p>1) The housing problem &#8211; shortage of affordable housing<br />
2) The government deficit</p>
<p>Housing is not affordable (for purchase) because many people have little or cash saved, but bank lending criteria have tightened dramatically. Banks would lend 100% of purchase price five years ago might be comfortable lending only 70% now.  So people who needed 0% of the purchase price in savings now need 30%.</p>
<p>The consequence is that houses will not be &#8220;affordable&#8221; for large demographic groups, even if the price were to drop dramatically. If prices were to fall 50%, banks would still be demanding unaffordable deposits.</p>
<p>The real &#8220;housing problem&#8221; is always one of distribution, finance and affordability, not quantity.  Building new houses unlikely to help.</p>
<p>Applying Business Rates to unoccupied land will have rather significant effects. The problem is I can&#8217;t be sure what.  And other people would have their own ideas<br />
about the possible effects.  This poses an immediate political challenge, to say nothing of the opposition by vested interests.</p>
<p>My hunch is that it would bring the land onto the market, bringing prices down and impairing the solvency of the house builders.  Not much new building will occur at this stage.  The opposition parties will announce they would<br />
reverse the legislation, and the government will relent under irresistible pressure. Decision making will be comatose until the political situation is unanimous.<br />
We&#8217;ve seen this with much of the previous land tax legislation in the 20th century.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the price of houses will be affected much, because the quantity will be almost unaffected, and the demand will be unaffected too. Same supply, same demand -&gt; prices unaffected. Remember, 300,000 sites represents only around 1% of the UK housing stock.</p>
<p>A key problem with the UK economy is excessive levels of debt (private+public). Building and selling 300,000 new houses on credit would result in *more* total debt,<br />
even considering the lower debt from the new NNDR, Stamp Duty, Income Tax and VAT. And the government will be pushed into spending on roads, schools, community centres, exacerbating the debt problem further.</p>
<p>I think any effective solution must affect the main bulk of housing and associated debt, rather than just working at the economic margins.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, for the above reasons, I cannot recommend the proposal as financially, economically or politically sound.</p>
<p>I wrote a paper for Prosper Australia&#8217;s Progress magazine explaining how to solve the housing and financial crisis.  An abridged version was published here. I will email anyone a copy on request &#8211; land at adrianwrigley.com</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonkers Land Tax by John</title>
		<link>http://www.landandliberty.net/12/bonkers-land-tax/#comment-1196</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 08:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This animated Youtube vid is good. Maybe Kevin Cahill should look at the list of Nobel prize winning economists who support LVT at the end of the vid.  Maybe they know something Kevin doesn&#039;t. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itO7OoKtNUc&amp;feature=feedf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This animated Youtube vid is good. Maybe Kevin Cahill should look at the list of Nobel prize winning economists who support LVT at the end of the vid.  Maybe they know something Kevin doesn&#8217;t. <img src='http://www.landandliberty.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itO7OoKtNUc&#038;feature=feedf" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itO7OoKtNUc&#038;feature=feedf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonkers Land Tax by John</title>
		<link>http://www.landandliberty.net/12/bonkers-land-tax/#comment-1195</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it bizarre that Kevin Cahill accuses others of not knowing anything about economics.  He stated:

&quot;Land value tax might work if universally applied in a rising market. In a falling market it would simply make any government deficit significantly worse.&quot;

In a falling market the reduction in income tax would do the same?  Governments would have little need for deficits as the economy will be very strong under &#124;LVT.  Everywhere it has been used it created economic growth

LVT is known as the SINGLE TAX - only one tax. LVT promotes enterprise, stops booms &amp; busts, reduces harmful speculation and gives stability.  Hong Kong and Singapore use it  - I have no need to highlight the enterprise spirit and success of these two places.

Adam Smith (father of modern economics) , David Ricardo, Winston Churchill, Leo Tolstoy, Milton Freidman, Nobel prize winner Bill Vickry, Martin Wolf, Fred Harrison, etc, etc, all advocate(d) LVT. 

Kevin Cahill&#039;s limited economics knowledge fails to realize that when an economy grows surplus money always ends up in the land market because it is tax free.  The 1928 and 2008 crashes were LAND fueled. LVT stops that in its tracks.

He needs to understand what &quot;unearned income&quot; is.  Hint, it is what parasite landlords get when taking in rent.  The rentiers have taken over by masquerading as capitalists.

Kevin needs to know about classic economics and the perverted neoclassical economics which merged LAND into CAPITAL - since then we have had periodic world-wide crashes.

Kevin needs to learn a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it bizarre that Kevin Cahill accuses others of not knowing anything about economics.  He stated:</p>
<p>&#8220;Land value tax might work if universally applied in a rising market. In a falling market it would simply make any government deficit significantly worse.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a falling market the reduction in income tax would do the same?  Governments would have little need for deficits as the economy will be very strong under |LVT.  Everywhere it has been used it created economic growth</p>
<p>LVT is known as the SINGLE TAX &#8211; only one tax. LVT promotes enterprise, stops booms &amp; busts, reduces harmful speculation and gives stability.  Hong Kong and Singapore use it  &#8211; I have no need to highlight the enterprise spirit and success of these two places.</p>
<p>Adam Smith (father of modern economics) , David Ricardo, Winston Churchill, Leo Tolstoy, Milton Freidman, Nobel prize winner Bill Vickry, Martin Wolf, Fred Harrison, etc, etc, all advocate(d) LVT. </p>
<p>Kevin Cahill&#8217;s limited economics knowledge fails to realize that when an economy grows surplus money always ends up in the land market because it is tax free.  The 1928 and 2008 crashes were LAND fueled. LVT stops that in its tracks.</p>
<p>He needs to understand what &#8220;unearned income&#8221; is.  Hint, it is what parasite landlords get when taking in rent.  The rentiers have taken over by masquerading as capitalists.</p>
<p>Kevin needs to know about classic economics and the perverted neoclassical economics which merged LAND into CAPITAL &#8211; since then we have had periodic world-wide crashes.</p>
<p>Kevin needs to learn a lot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Owns our Green and Pleasant Land? by Edmund Bush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edmund Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol Wilcox would do well to consider public access to the land as a  factor in any future Land Value Tax assessments. As shown in my book &#039;Who owns Sparsholt ....&#039; current landowners&#039; attitude to public access is stridently against improving access to the coutryside, and likely to get more so in view of escalating land values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol Wilcox would do well to consider public access to the land as a  factor in any future Land Value Tax assessments. As shown in my book &#8216;Who owns Sparsholt &#8230;.&#8217; current landowners&#8217; attitude to public access is stridently against improving access to the coutryside, and likely to get more so in view of escalating land values.</p>
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		<title>Comment on St. Paul&#8217;s Occupation. by Coverage of the Sermon on the Steps &#124; z2kblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coverage of the Sermon on the Steps &#124; z2kblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Land &amp; Liberty, 30th October, St. Paul’s Occupation. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Bonkers Land Tax by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Clifford Lawrence.

LVT is called the SINGLE TAX.  No income tax, VAT and host of other needless taxes.  Yes taxing the UKs land by its &quot;value&quot; can eliminate all these rather daft taxes. 

It works. Hong Kong use it to have super low income and Corporation Tax.  

It promotes enterprise.  
It prevent harmful speculation LAND#
It prevents boom &amp; busts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Clifford Lawrence.</p>
<p>LVT is called the SINGLE TAX.  No income tax, VAT and host of other needless taxes.  Yes taxing the UKs land by its &#8220;value&#8221; can eliminate all these rather daft taxes. </p>
<p>It works. Hong Kong use it to have super low income and Corporation Tax.  </p>
<p>It promotes enterprise.<br />
It prevent harmful speculation LAND#<br />
It prevents boom &amp; busts</p>
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		<title>Comment on Henry George’s View on Money by Simon McKenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon McKenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this interesting and informative article. I like the rhetorical nature of the questions posed at the end as they point to a practical implementation leading to change. This is, I think, one of the many fascinating areas of Georgist theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this interesting and informative article. I like the rhetorical nature of the questions posed at the end as they point to a practical implementation leading to change. This is, I think, one of the many fascinating areas of Georgist theory.</p>
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